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Lawrence Higgins's avatar

Nobody can be prepared for something like this and I am afraid that it is only going to get worse ever year. It is time for ever Government department and State department to work together because Climate change is here.

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Donna LaBruno's avatar

You are so blind

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Erin Brockovich's avatar

Listen, DONNA. I don't know your story and your beliefs but my parents taught me that if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all. I'm sure you wouldn't want some trying to insult you for your beliefs, so I'm not sure why you would insult our friend Lawrence. BTW, his entire community has been devastated by PFAS chemicals so I KNOW he would appreciate more kindness. You can read more about that here: https://www.thebrockovichreport.com/p/what-the-sludge?

And as someone with dyslexia (a disability), I also know it's not nice to use someone's different abilities as an insult. Thank YOU.

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Kathlean J Keesler's avatar

geoengineeringwatch.org Dane Wigington his documentary The Dimming

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Donna LaBruno's avatar

People commenting here believing in climate change. Omg. They are blind. They need to be red pilled.

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ceejay's avatar

Ummm. There was a similar weather event and flooding in the same area in 1916. Using this event for climate change propaganda is unethical

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Chello's avatar

Not propaganda. It's fact. Because it happened somewhere before doesn't account for the rapid succession of these current storms and the incredible speed they gain in short periods of time.

The panhandle in Florida has been hit 3x in a year.

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Mark Luersen's avatar

What I would like to know is if there has even been a storm that after landfall it veered west instead of east? I asked the useless chatGPT but it gave me several wrong answers. This storm was extremely unnatural, and I am starting to believe weather warfare is upon us. That, or something is different with our Jetstream's, did the Atlantic one shut down now? Will we get an apocalyptic winter?

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Stephen Schiff's avatar

Thank you for your carefully written post, Erin. What you wrote is true: Higher temperatures equate to an incrreased capacity of the air to hold water, and higher sea surface temperatures. The former feeds a tendency for heavier rains, and the latter to more powerful storms.

It is good that you did not go further and attribute the storm itself to climate change. Climate change attribution is a rapidly advancing field, made possible by a suite of improved and improving climate modeling codes, vastly improved computing capabilities (that means bigger networks of faster processors and NOT AI), and better quality data. Climate change attribution is a retrospective as opposed to prospective exercise, so at the moment it would not be appropriate to state even that the amount of flooding for this particular storm was due to climate change.

Climate change attribution science involves complex calculations and statistical reasoning. I am in the process of writing a piece at a level comprehensible to the general public. My plan is to publish it on my Substack, https://stephenschiff.substack.com on November 7th.

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Chello's avatar

Before it hit the panhandle in Florida it was gaining strength. Where I am, near Tampa, we saw storm surge from the massive winds of 130 mph 110 miles off shore. This area hasn't seen a hurricane in over 120 years. The storm surge threw boats all over, came up as high as 8' and has devistated many towns on the coast....houses, businesses, parks, water/sewage systems, Electrical. Piers were damaged and floated into town. Not to mention the winds that threw trees and branches everywhere. This is becoming the norm....horrifyingly.

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Socratez's avatar

It’s quite obvious, isn’t it?

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Courtney Smith's avatar

Would love to hear your thoughts on all the pollution and poisoning the people of western NC are now facing because of the nuclear material and PVC that washed into the river from the hurricane. I feel like this will massive health crisis we won’t even understand the implications of for another ddcade.

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Erin Brockovich's avatar

It's very possible. So hard to know without proper testing and also takes time for toxins to settle after that much water rushing through. MountainTrue is one org that's on the ground doing some testing: https://mountaintrue.org/all-news/

It's a big problem for Florida and the Gulf Coast too: https://theconversation.com/hurricane-milton-flooded-industrial-sites-and-toxic-chemical-releases-are-a-silent-growing-threat-239977

We need more public information on chemical threats in the face of changing weather patterns including floods and hurricanes

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"What’s striking is not just the magnitude of the storm but how quickly it became a dangerous situation for the community with such little notice. The storm highlighted the aging infrastructure that’s not prepared for more frequent and extreme weather events. That’s not just an Asheville problem but one many communities now face throughout the country and the world."

And things will only get messier and more deadly the longer we deny that our polluting of the Earth is what is causing these super storms to form, intensify, and cause more death and destruction.

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